http://www.houstoncougarbaseball.com

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Ho-lee sh*t.

Every D1 coach will have this article printed out and using.

As if Rayner wasn't already "done," he is now. As much of the "play my kid and the best 8" as there is in that thing, and it's substantial, there's enough logical thought (though baised) to do damage.

summary?

Wow that thing is long. And I'm not going to read it but I'm sure it's intense.

The kid ran a mile and half really fast. Why wasn't he playing more?

I enjoyed the video evidence of his son striking out the side against Southern Miss who just happens to be in the '09 College World Series.

Normally, I would laugh this off as a parent who is delusional. However, the details provided and the thoroughness of the description of the UofH coach running off D1 talent is interesting.

A teammate of my son's signed with UH a few years ago and both he and his family were not impressed with Raynor or his program. I've known Raynor casually for 15 years, went to the same church, and have never gotten a read on him as a person except that he's a weird guy.

As a Rice fan, I really hope Raynor stays at UH for a long, long time!

He can mis-manage a baseball game like none other

I am not trying to comment about the boy (because the father is the one that wrote the post) but I did check the stats (as the father suggested). His cumulative stats at U of H:

70.33 IP
6.91 ERA
100 H
37 BB
12 HBP
44 K
0.339 BA Against

Not overly impressive. The post brags about K/BF. 44 K's in 70.33 innings is not worth writing home about.

Like the last poster, I hope Coach Noble is there for a long time. Having a second top team recruiting in Houston would hurt A&M's ability to get great players from that area.

There was absolutley zero logical thought in that rant. Just horrific logic and a total over-reliance on anecdotal evidence, tangentially relevant statistics, and non sequiturs. Jimmy Raviele just sucked. Sorry pops, if you can't see that through your rose colored glasses. I don't care if Jimmy hit a homer as a 9-year old. This guy is a Daddy Ball zealot who obviously can't analyze his own son's performance in an objective manner.

But hey, the fact that this embarrassment of a rant has spread like wildfire on the internet is somewhat amusing. I do like how he wove his private jet into the story -- what a joke.

DADDY BALL DADDY BALL!

it's called life dude, but im glad you have a plane.

your son throws 84 mph! WOW, GAS!

maybe that is the reason he didnt pitch 8 innings per appearance is because he was a situational guy.

stop blaming the JV coach, Raynor Noble, the U of H first baseman. oh and you back it up with the fact that your son throws a knuckleball. woopty ****in doo!

just some FYI sir, your son's HS district was trash (baseball wise). I know from experience. I could have hit .400 left-handed in that district. your son beat Waltrip HS and Santa Fe HS----WOW, he is nolan ryan. those schools are scrubs. i know that from experience also.

i agree with you on the fact that your son may not have gotten the right opportunities, but dear god, shutup! your son would have been lit up as a starter, but again, it would have been because Jimmy wasnt loose. i dont think Noble is the brightest coach, but believe it or not, your son was not Major League talent.

I cannot believe you embarrassed him by doing this, after he expressed to you that he didnt approve of it.

Get over it. Im sure your son Jimmy is a good guy, but that rant was pathetic. I hope your son is successful in whatever path he chooses, but you my friend, need to stop with the pathetic daddy-ball rants.

---i dont mean to bash or trash jimmy, but im 99% sure he wouldnt have been a big leaguer. good luck in whatever career path you choose, jimmy!

[This message has been edited by OptionRead (edited 6/13/2009 9:04p).]

all I could think of while reading that was...

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Check Jimmy out!
Jimmy's down!
Jimmy might have a compound fracture.. Jimmy's going into shock!!

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oh yeah and he blamed the statistician.




what a ******bag

Geez. That actually makes Noble look good and the parent look like the stereotypical little league dad.

I played little league ball with and against Jimmy and was coached on an all-star (acutally grey-white) by Mr. Raviele

Mr. Ravelie was always nice to me, but he was as stereotypical of a little league dad as there is. Jimmy wasn't much better. Fast forward to college, I remember Vinny (Mr. Raviele) went off on a similar rant a couple years ago about his son's playing time (right after Jimmy struck out a batter at Olsen field, I believe) I am not suprised this is out now.

Although i wasn't a big fan of Jimmy, I do feel bad for him.

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Jimmy had a knuckle ball like no other. It was killer! Whenever Jimmy got two strikes on a batter he would throw the knuckle and get the 3rd strike almost every time. This ball was un-hittable or if someone did get a piece of it - it usually wasn’t much of a hit and just rolled to an infielder to easily make the out.

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That "knuckleball" was crap. It was basically just a floater that everybody would crush.

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He was jealous of Jimmy and called him a rich boy! He asked Jimmy how much did I (his father) donate to get Jimmy on the U of H team?

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The same thought crossed all of my friends minds

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Jimmy struggled and gave up hits and runs and finally after he warmed up Jimmy went 1, 2 ,3 and got the side out all in a row with one strikeout. (Jimmy's ERA was 54.00, with only 1 inning pitched this killed Jimmy's ERA

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I guess thats one way to put it

[This message has been edited by Wrec86 Ag (edited 6/14/2009 12:14a).]

Is UofH coming to Olsen next year, if so this thread will need to be bumped.

Where are Jimmy's T-ball stats? Poor kid I am embarrased for him.

oh man this is funny stuff. guy sounds like a ****** bag in this article. poor kid. prob wouldn't speak to my dad for a while if he did this to me

"Let Jimmy pitch!"

He made so many comments about the freshman year that my only question is, "why didn't Jimmy transfer?" In a partial ship sport he could transfer anywhere w/o losing a year.

Perhaps they tried with no takers as the other coaches knew the dad was bad trouble?

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In a partial ship sport he could transfer anywhere w/o losing a year.

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Not true....especially if Raynor refused to give him a release.

I think it was true when Jimmy was a freshman but not now.

Now they have to sit out a year if they tranfers. that new rule started in 2o07.

I think the rule back then was that you could not transfer within the conference w/o the coaches permission.

Wow, I started reading that hoping to enjoy some bashing of a coach I have always despised (and still do) and it sounded like some of the parents of my son's t-ball team that I coach. Unreal. He is embarassing his son, plain and simple.

I will say this though. I have had the opportunity over the years to sit with parent families at numerous regionals and the way they talk about coaches, etc. sounds just like how parents talk in little league or high school. I guess the higher the level, the less things actually change in regards to parents and their "babies".

Im assuming the rule was the same during Jimmy Boy's time at cougar high as it was when I was playing in the mid 90's. During that time if the current AD (actually the AD makes the ultimate decision regarding releases) refused to grant a release, a player had to sit a year. I havent kept up with the rule changes but I think you are right about the new rule coming into effect in 2007.

Jimmy's dad really made an ass of himself with this gem. I'm sure he thought he really showed em though.

in 70 innings pitched, if you are good the stats would reflect it, regardless of the situation in which you were brought in.

he just wasnt that good

Go look up this guys stats, this father makes his son sound like some star, this past season the kid pitched 11 innings and gave up 12 runs! Are you f***ing kidding? What a d*****bag the father has to be. For one my father who is an avid UH fan (went to A&M for undergrad and UH for MBA) finds Noble to be quite pleasing as a coach and friendly. Honestly UH 's baseball program would be crap without Noble. Noble has been there 14 seasons and has led the Coogs to three super regionals, eight regionals, and three CUSA championships. Explain how he is a bad coach. Hey VINNY, your son was CRAP, he was lucky to even been sniffed out by UH, when he was only recruited by HBU an NORTHWOODS! HAHA! I honestly feel sorry for the kid, and the father must be a nut. Coach Noble has done a lot of good for many players at UH and it never seems that he has had any problems with the program.

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A teammate of my son's signed with UH a few years ago and both he and his family were not impressed with Raynor or his program.

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At the regional last year a couple of us talked with some UH players before our game.

I grew up watching a kid who played and later was on the staff there so I asked about him. He has apparently taken a job at like South Florida or something, but the parents said when he left he had to call all the players in to a meeting and convince them to stay on board.

According to these parents (kid was a pitcher I think) most of the players and fewer of the parents like Raynor and want him gone.

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There was absolutley zero logical thought in that rant. Just horrific logic and a total over-reliance on anecdotal evidence, tangentially relevant statistics, and non sequiturs. Jimmy Raviele just sucked. Sorry pops, if you can't see that through your rose colored glasses. I don't care if Jimmy hit a homer as a 9-year old. This guy is a Daddy Ball zealot who obviously can't analyze his own son's performance in an objective manner.

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This.

He lost me when he talked about the outstanding education Jimmy got at Cougar High.

Cliff Notes Version: My son is great. Raynor sucks. Why? Because I own a jet and was the president of Lamar LL!

if you want a laugh, go over to coogfans and Mr. Raviele has entered the thread. He's "CougarJet".

pathetic.

this guy is pathetic. his son must be completely embarrassed.

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When Jimmy was in Little League’s Minors Division (9 year olds) he hit 2 home runs over the fence. The first one happened and many (jealous) parents said it hit the outfielder's glove and then went over with some help. The second one Jimmy smashed was during All Stars in Freeport Texas, needless to say the parents could not say much about that one.

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Holy crap I played little leage with Jimmy!

Obviously the messenger has an agenda and a terrible rant but...

When you have as many players leave a "stable" program it makes you wonder.

Their best player last year, OF Jake Stewart, tried to transfer to Texas A&M after missing the 2007 season with a shoulder injury. As a senior transfer he couldn't fit his UH coursework into a major at Texas A&M and had to return to the Cougars. He hit .332-14-53 and led them in multiple categories despite not wanting to be there.

What is the fire behind the smoke with the transfers of good players (not some of those that were never going to play due to talent) from the Cougars?

www.aggiebaseball.net

My focus was on the players that DID transfer and ended up having very successful college careers. However, you have to be careful with this type of analysis.

For example, Oklahoma's J.T. Wise was at LSU his freshman year. Did Maneiri run him off or was he just not the right fit with both parties splitting amicably?