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Horsecollar breaks leg?

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ESPN's ticker is reporting this. I didn't see anything on the first three pages. Any links to a report?
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Gotta give us more...

Roy Williams broke TOs leg with a horse collar tackle.
motis
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Stewart frosh running back from Colorado broke his leg, but I think it was bush that ESPN calls out Von Miller by name like that.
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I keep seeing that too.....and wonder the same thing
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3677363
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I haven't seen the ticker, but saw it happen at the game. Bottom line, he stopped the opposing player from advancing. Sorry the kid broke his leg, but the play was not dirty.
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he got a 15 yeard penalty for a horse collar tackle. he obviously wasn't trying to break the kids leg, but it did look like he got some of the pads on the tackle. a couple years ago it isn't a penalty, the horse collar tackle rule was put in for this very reason.
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sorry to hear about the kid breaking his leg.. and the play was not dirty yet still illegal!
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wow, I don't even remember that at the game today...
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well, I remember the horsecollar tackle but not the broken leg.
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Bottom line, he stopped the opposing player from advancing. Sorry the kid broke his leg, but the play was not dirty.


So I'm assuming that if your child, teammate, etc broke his leg you wouldn't care? Cmon man, get a grip. I know you're just trying to defend Von, but get real.
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There was nothing wrong with the article. It stated the facts and was accurate. How on earth can you complain about that?

I don't like the HC rule, but it is situations like that why the rule was put into place.
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So I'm assuming that if your child, teammate, etc broke his leg you wouldn't care? Cmon man, get a grip. I know you're just trying to defend Von, but get real.

you are playing a violent sport...things happen...get real
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So I'm assuming that if your child, teammate, etc broke his leg you wouldn't care? Cmon man, get a grip. I know you're just trying to defend Von, but get real


Get real about what? No one said they didn't care, but it wasn't a dirty play. Period. If someone grabbed someone by the arm in the heat of trying to tackle a tough runner and said runner's arm popped off, it wouldn't be called "dirty" any more than this one should.

Unfortunate? Yes. Dirty? No.

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I haven't seen the ticker, but saw it happen at the game. Bottom line, he stopped the opposing player from advancing. Sorry the kid broke his leg, but the play was not dirty.
you are outrageous. I knew a few kids in HS that broke their legs and tore ligaments in their knees due to Horse Collars

I hope Coach sits Von down to understand that he should never tackle by the collar and i hope he's learned his lesson
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I think it was **** that they called it out on the ticker...was there nothing better from the game thwey could pull?
FlagFootballGuy
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An HC tackle is just as clean as a high-low or leading with the crown of the helmet and going for the chin, right? Oh...wait...nevermind....
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it's football. it happens.
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Get real about what? No one said they didn't care, but it wasn't a dirty play. Period. If someone grabbed someone by the arm in the heat of trying to tackle a tough runner and said runner's arm popped off, it wouldn't be called "dirty" any more than this one should.

Unfortunate? Yes. Dirty? No.

Was it against the rules? Yes. Is grabbing someone by the arm against the rules? No.

They used to allow a lot of things that are now against the rules to protect the players. Things like crack back blocks, chop blocking, hitting an NFL QB, etc. weren't against the rules at one time either but they are NOW. Hence against the rules.

Oddly, you all would think it would be cool if they mentioned the player by name who made 'the hit'.
DerAggie
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Yankees I understand your concern for the player, but to pretend that such moralistic decisions like that are possible in a Division 1 game is unrealistic. The speed of the game is too fast. Please don't make this some sort of witch-hunt. Its a violent game, Von was doing his job.
FlagFootballGuy
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Aggie football has fallen soooooo far....we're now debating things like HC tackles, whether Tech or Texas winning is better for our program, and arguing about whether or not we can beat Baylor this year....

The early 90's never looked so good!!!
FlagFootballGuy
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the mention of the coryatt hit just brings back memories that are way back...

Rex Racer
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It was a penalty, but I wish it wasn't. I don't like the rule. It severely limits the way a defender can tackle from behind. The only reason it is against the rules today is because TO broke his leg while being tackled by Roy Williams in this way. Otherwise, it wouldn't have been made a penalty in the NFL, and the NCAA wouldn't have picked it up.
DerAggie
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Too many people on this board are pansies and I'm guessing did not play much football.

Cue the, "I was a Texas High School Football Legend," reponses. Or in Yankees case, New York.

Get real. Its an instinctual and violent game.
aggie0959
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if he had not made the HC we would be bchn about him getting a huge gain or TD be cause he did not make a tackle.
elen2009
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Neither I nor Yankees are condemning Von Miller. It was an accident. I am completely aware of that. But there are a couple posters here acting like ESPN owes us an apology. All they did was report an injury.
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quote:

Cue the, "I was a Texas High School Football Legend," reponses. Or in Yankees case, New York.
good thing you know nothing about me. I played ball in houston. I was no legend, but a teammate of mine got hurt by one of those. I am not asking for some sort of witch hunt. Those things happen, but at least have coach talk to him about changing his technique. Nothing wrong with this.

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Yankees I understand your concern for the player, but to pretend that such moralistic decisions like that are possible in a Division 1 game is unrealistic. The speed of the game is too fast. Please don't make this some sort of witch-hunt. Its a violent game, Von was doing his job.
i def agree.

[This message has been edited by Yankees (edited 11/2/2008 12:40a).]
FlagFootballGuy
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Der...while I somewhat agree with you....I still think good players need to adapt and play to the rules so they don't get needless penalties and so that others do the same against us..
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I had no idea the dude was seriously injured. Hope he makes a full recovery.
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no dirtier than a facemask, hence a 15 yard penalty not removal from the game

it may have been a TD saving play by von regardless of the penalty, I think CU got 3 out of that drive
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I remember seeing the tackle in the game and explaining the penalty to my girlfriend. I told her it's a penalty because it can cause injuries like this one, didn't realize at the time that the running back had actually gotten hurt tho.

Hopefully he recovers quickly, major bummer for the kid.
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Classy
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What happened on the tackle for him to break his leg? Did another player land on his leg, or did it bend in an unnatural direction?

Just curious?
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Von Miller
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