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The Big Ten/Pac-10, UT attack on A&M and why (very long)

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silentsam74
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This was originally posted on AggieYell.com and linked on tidefans.com. It was authored by a UF grad. I haven't seen it on here but I thought you guys would be interested. As a Bama fan 1st and SEC fan second, if any of this is true then there could be no better outcome than A&M joining the SEC.

I am a Florida alum and Gator fan who’s become very interested in the realignment of college football which has begun to take shape. Have tried to follow events as closely as possible. As last week progressed I began to see some things nobody has talked about but lead me to some conclusions which startle me, especially considering that I am not by nature a conspiracy nut.

I believe that the Big Ten and Pac-10 conferences have jointly planned a major upheaval in college athletics, primarily over football and are working very closely together in order to bring it about. Although uncertain, I believe that it’s likely being done with the active complicity of the University of Texas. The goals are simple: both the Big Ten and Pac-10 seek to significantly enlarge their power and influence over college athletics and do so in a way that isolates the Southeastern Conference, in recent years the best athletic conference in the America. The Big Ten/Pac-10 have, in my view, consciously decided and have engaged in a course of conduct to destroy the Big 12 Conference, largely because it’s in the way. Thus far only there is only one thing which has prevented this plan from being successfully executed.

Texas A&M University.

A&M’s current indecision over whether to join UT in the Pac-10 or join the SEC, assuming the Big 12 can’t be saved, has forced both conferences to make changes in the original plan. There’s tremendous pressure being put on A&M to join the Pac-10 because the entire Big Ten/Pac-10 plan will fail to achieve its full goal if it doesn’t join the Pac-10: increased power to both conferences while at the same time isolating and minimizing the SEC.

When the Big 10 first announced expansion plans months ago interest focused on Notre Dame which rather quickly stated its desire to remain a football independent. Beyond that the initial media coverage focused on one (1) Big 12 school, the University of Missouri and several schools in the Big East. The interest in the latter was, ostensibly, to gain the Big Ten access to the New York City TV market. It all made sense. It was all a farce. The Big 12 school targeted by the Big Ten was Nebraska. The Pac 10 was also initiating expansion plans, though far more quietly. Its goal: expand to sixteen (16) teams all from the Big 12. The goal of both conferences was to destroy the Big 12 and gain power as a result. They are very close to succeeding.

As things moved on there was almost simultaneous disclosure of the Big Ten’s interest in Nebraska and the Pac-10’s interest in Colorado, schools in Texas and Oklahoma. During Big 12’s recent administrative meetings two significant (2) things occurred: First, the “rest” of the Big 12 imposed a deadline on Colorado, Missouri and Nebraska by which time each was required to state whether it intended to remain a Big 12 member (the deadline was originally thought to be Friday, June 11th, though some suggested it could be as late as Tuesday, June 15th; Second, word started spreading that while the Big 12 could survive the loss of Colorado or Missouri or both, it could not survive if Nebraska decided to go elsewhere.

Both the deadline and the “we must keep Nebraska or we die” ideas were lead by one (1) school: Texas.

1. Why Nebraska? Yes, it has a rich tradition, especially in football, but if the Big 12 could survive Colorado or Missouri or both, why couldn’t it survive if just Nebraska left? ANSWER: Because it creates a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you’re going to publicly destroy something like the Big 12, it helps if you can justify it in advance. It also helps to create the illusion that Texas wanted to keep the Big 12 alive.

When Nebraska’s Chancellor addressed the university’s Board of Regents meeting on Friday, June 11th, he related a discussion he’d had at the Big 12 meeting in which he essentially asked three (3) questions: What happens if Missouri leaves? Big 12 schools thought the conference would survive. What happens if Colorado leaves? The Big 12 survives. What happens if Nebraska leaves? Oh, that’s different, if Nebraska leaves the Big 12 collapses.
At the same Board of Regents meeting Athletic Director (and former football coach) Tom Osborne stated that when Nebraska officials grilled other Big 12 schools some admitted (I’d be shocked if Texas wasn’t one of them) talking to as many as three (3) other conferences while Nebraska had only talked to one (1), the Big Ten. As a result Nebraska officials thought they had no choice but to find a new place to land. That is exactly what one (1) of those schools wanted Nebraska to think, so the Huskers’ leaving the Big 12 would cover the tracks of other schools when they deserted the Big 12. That school is Texas. If you’re going to destroy something in which you belong, it helps if you can blame someone else.

2. When Texas and Texas A&M officials met on Monday, June 8th, to discuss saving the Big 12, was that the real goal of the meeting? ANSWER: No, the real goal, at least from UT’s view, was to convince Texas A&M to join UT, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Colorado in the new mega-conference Pac-10. Problems arose because A&M officials weren’t sold on the idea and wanted to look at other options.

Texas (the Big Ten & Pac-10) assumed that A&M officials could be cajoled into following UT’s lead because in many matters A&M has done so in the past. Of course by now the cat is out of the bag on the Pac-10’s plans with other Big 12 schools. Baylor University is going to be left out (because the Pac 10 doesn’t want Baylor) and efforts begin in Austin to see if Baylor can be substituted for Colorado in the new Pac-10 mega-conference.

3. Why does it matter to UT if Texas A&M joins the Pac-10? There’s the historical relationship of the two schools, as institutions of higher learning in Texas and the athletic rivalry. However, neither has anything to do with it. ANSWER: Texas needs to get Texas A&M on board to prevent the SEC from gaining any foothold in Texas. The Big Ten/Pac-10 plan calls for the Big Ten to extend is domination from the Midwest into major TV markets of the East while the Pac-10 becomes the preeminent conference west of the Mississippi River. To accomplish that, the Pac-10 must add the entire state of Texas to prevent the SEC from expanding its territory and its influence.

Saving Baylor University actually played into the Big Ten/Pac-10 cover story which became even more important when Texas A&M insisted on looking at alternatives to Pac-10 membership.

4. Why was Colorado, surprisingly invited to the Pac-10 earlier than expected and prior to Nebraska? Why was Colorado taken out of turn? ANSWER: To put pressure on Texas A&M. Although never conceded as such, almost everybody in the media and elsewhere assumed the Pac-10’s invitation to Colorado last Thursday was to stop any pro-Baylor efforts in Texas, AND any pressure on UT to make a Pac-10 invitation to Baylor a condition of its willingness to go to the Pac-10. It was the perfect cover story.

The Pac-10 doesn’t want Baylor and never has, but adding Colorado just prior to the Big Ten-Nebraska engagement did two things: First, if anybody tried to blame either the Big Ten or the Pac-10, each can claim that initially they took only one (1) Big 12 team; Second, when Nebraska did leave the following day, Texas can say that, despite its best efforts, the Big 12’s days are over and that Texas A&M better get on board with its fellow flagship university partner and join the Pac-10. Why? To stop the SEC from entering Texas by adding a major school from Texas to its conference lineup. The Pac-10 and Big Ten don’t want the SEC in Texas. One of their common goals is to reduce the SEC’s power by denying it expansion that helps the SEC grow.

5. Why, after wooing Missouri for months, did the Big Ten’s Commissioner tell his Big 12 counterpart after confirming Nebraska’s invitation to join his conference that the Big Ten didn’t anticipate adding any other Big 12 schools to his conference? ANSWER: Because Texas A&M’s interest in options beside the Pac-10 has created instability the Big Ten/Pac-10 can’t control. Adding to that instability only creates more chances that it gets worse. And, remember, because of Texas A&M, things aren’t going according to the original plan.

Nebraska’s exit from the Big 12 confirms UT’s self-fulfilling prophecy that the Big 12 is dead. It’s not that the Big Ten isn’t still interested in Missouri. However, because of Texas A&M’s position, it now makes more sense for the Big Ten & Pac 10 to split any responsibility for the Big 12’s demise; allow Texas to lead Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the Pac-10 under the ruse that the Big 12 is no longer viable; then when the Big 12 collapses the Big Ten can still invite Missouri which, technically won’t be a Big 12 school because the Big 12 is either already gone or officially on the road to self-extinction.

6. Why has ABC-TV been so quiet in all of this? The network has television rights to the Big 12 and stands to lose a lot, correct? ANSWER: Wrong, it does not because it’s also the primary TV partner of both the Pac-10 and Big Ten. If this goes according to plan, money that would have gone to the Big 12 for distribution will now mostly go to the Pac-10 with some to the Big Ten. Chances are ABC (and its subsidiary, ESPN) will lose little or nothing in this massive upheaval. Instead ABC will just be shuffling off roughly the same amount of money into different conferences. There is also a major gain for ABC in that it’s prior relationships with both the Big Ten and Pac-10 are more significant because both conferences become far more powerful.

ESPN puts major investigative reporters on Barry Bonds and other significant sports issues. College football is undergoing the most massive change in its history and ESPN is doing nothing but covering the basics of who’s going where. Why? Because any serious outside investigation of the realignment of college athletics might expose the possibility that ESPN’s parent company, ABC, is involved in this plan. The Big Ten/Pac-10 want to beat back the SEC. ABC wants to beat back CBS which is the SEC’s television partner.

7. Why has the Pac-10 imposed a 72-hour deadline on Texas A&M while its commissioner personally hands out invitations this weekend to Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State? ANSWER: Because time is of the essence regarding the overall plan, but especially the Big Ten’s portion of the plan.

In order for the Big Ten to pressure Notre Dame into accepting a Big Ten invitation, the conference must destabilize ND’s comfort zone. To do that it must seek new members from the Big East conference which houses most of Notre Dame’s non-football athletic teams. Pittsburgh, Syracuse and Rutgers are the schools most often mentioned by the media. However, if that happens, the Big East becomes unstable and, likely seeks some sort of merger with the Atlantic Coast Conference. Two (2) Texas newspapers, citing SEC sources, indicated that the SEC’s dream expansion scenario involves Texas, Texas A&M, North Carolina-Chapel Hill and Duke. Media reports confirm that the SEC has talked with UNC and that it didn’t say “no.” Neither has it said yes.

8. Why is the SEC’s dream scenario important in all this? ANSWER: Because a major goal of the Big Ten/Pac-10 plan is to prevent any significant SEC expansion into any non-SEC states.

Because of Texas A&M’s unwillingness to blindly follow UT’s lead in the western portion of the Big Ten/Pac-10 plan, everything has bogged down. That must be controlled in a way that forces A&M to follow UT into the Pac-10. If not, the SEC makes inroads into Texas and Texas TV markets. Destabilizing the Big East by the Big Ten could lead ACC schools to do what Nebraska did and seek other options. If SEC adds Texas A&M as a conference school, that is bad for both the Big Ten and Pac-10. However, if the SEC adds A&M, North Carolina and Duke (a 4th school would need to be added as well), a major goal of the plan is a total failure. Adding those three (3) schools to the SEC not only makes it the best football conference in the U.S., but also the best men’s basketball conference. Further, Notre Dame probably correctly reads the long term consequences of such events and, again, decides to stay an independent, thus ruining another basic goal of the Big Ten portion of the plan. There are six (6) major college athletic conferences in the United States: the Big East, Atlantic Coast, Southeastern, Big Ten, Big 12 and Pac-10. The plan by the Big Ten/Pac-10 calls for one (1) of those conferences (Big 12) to be destroyed, two (2) others (Big East and ACC) to be destabilized towards a merger, and one (1) more (SEC) to be isolated so it can’t adequately respond to the two (2) new power conferences in America (the Big Ten and Pac-10). Hell, it’s almost like the old days when the Rose Bowl was the premier New Year’s Day game and was controlled by the same two (2) conferences.

9. Is there any more pressure that can be put on Texas A&M to join the Pac-10? ANSWER: Yes and it’s already happening. Without saying so publically (who knows what’s been said behind the scenes directly to Texas A&M), Texas is threatening to end its rivalry with the Aggies. Major newspapers in both Dallas and Houston, Sunday, are reporting that and other consequences if A&M doesn’t play ball. One paper suggests other Texas schools will blackball A&M if it doesn’t join the Pac-10. In other words play ball with us or pay.

Once again, Texas is setting up another self-fulfilling prophecy. 1: If Nebraska goes to the Big Ten, the Big 12 is dead and its Nebraska’s fault. 2: We did everything we could to save the Big 12, but now that it’s gone, we have no choice but to join the Pac-10. 3: We really want to maintain our rivalry with Texas A&M. However, if the Aggies don’t follow us to the Pac-10, the rivalry is no longer viable and it’s Texas A&M’s fault.

10. What’s going to happen next? ANSWER: I don’t know unless Texas A&M bows to UT’s pressure. If that happens, the second phase of the plan will begin to destabilize the Big East in order to force Notre Dame to join the Big Ten. At that point every other conference in America will be directly threatened by the Big Ten/Pac-10 reconfiguration of college athletics.

My purpose here isn’t to influence any Texas A&M decision. To me A&M going to the Pac-10 makes little sense and -at best- is the worst of three (3) options. The other two are joining the SEC or making a real effort to save the Big 12 in a reconfigured form by attacking and exposing UT’s apparent complicity in the Big Ten/Pac-10 plan.

In conclusion, let me reiterate that I’m not a conspiracy freak. However, in this instance too many things have happened too quickly not to believe they are being orchestrated by someone or some group of people. I know the Big 12’s money distribution system of revenues was flawed. It contributed both to internal conference strife and to its apparent demise. However, the Big 12 could be salvaged and re-configured if people so wanted. I believe Texas A&M sincerely has tried to do so. I also believe the University of Texas has been complicit in the Big 12’s destruction in order to advance its own interests and that of two (2) athletic conferences. One of those goals is the continued subjugation of Texas A&M.

Texas A&M must find the best long term answer to the situation it now faces. It should understand fully the circumstances in which it finds itself and how they came about. I sincerely wish A&M the best because whatever decision A&M makes will likely change for decades the makeup of college athletics. It ought to know why it is presently under siege and who is responsible for doing so. And it should realize that by simply doing what is every American’s right … the right to question and seek alternatives, Texas A&M finds itself in its current position at the very center of the future of college athletics and under the watchful, threatening eyes of others who care nothing about the university, but only what it can do for them.

Good luck and God speed.
Trev
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Hey, I've seen you on tidefans! The gator who wrote that was on to something.
usmcaggie
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wow. good read.
ElmoAg09
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I wonder what this guys take on bigfoot is...
The Chicken Ranch
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This is even more reason to go to the SEC.

If tu tries to blackmail us and not play us OOC every Thanksgiving, then they will forever be known as the pU$$*eS that they are. The emperor will have no clothes!
silentsam74
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MightyWingman! I have seen you on there as well. lol I agree that he is on to something. And its more than just a bit unsettling.
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And t.u. accuses the SEC of poor academics? This could be made into a movie.

not drunk... Gamedrunk!!!
RedComyn
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This mess wasn't that well-orchestrated. People keep using prom analogies, so I'll throw out my own. Your scenario is a choreographed scene from a movie, everyone knows what to do and where to be and when to be there. What's playing out is like a real dance, people doing their best not not bump into each other and reacting as best they can as the situation changes.

[This message has been edited by RedComyn (edited 6/13/2010 6:00p).]
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I've seen similar theories on Big 10 forums about the Pac 10/Big 10 working together with Texas. I've also read about the Big 10 destroying the Big East to force ND to join. I wouldn't be surprised if some of this is true.
Bird Poo
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This is not some conspiracy. This is the truth.
Bucketrunner
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I'll bet this little bit of info never sees the light of day in the print media. I believe the author is spot on.
nelson muntz
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This theory is interesting when combined with the fact that a tu website was somehow scooping everyone else with all of the breaking news early on.
JuanAmigo
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I have been saying this exact same thing for a few weeks, and it has a precedence,dating back to the days when the pac10 and b10 agreed to only play each other in the rose bowl. College football has passed them by, now they are using whatever means they can,to regain power.
penhead
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WOW, good read, all of the recent events and dominos falling seem to point to a coordinated effort by the networks.

Gene Stallings may turn out to be the HERO in all of this!
tilley
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Interesting read, not sure how much I believe it. However it is interesting how little I can really find on ESPN about everything. Seems to be rather sublime in comparison to how much they lavishly cover many other goings on in sports.
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He is not too far off.
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I want A&M to go to the SEC but I never thought about a big10/pac10 conspiracy. Very interesting. Makes sense.
Aggs4life
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Spot on. Great read and I feel this is about as close to accurate as you can get. I wonder who the original poster really is. He has to be an insider, or an insider is having him post this information for him . . .
KC Aggie
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There's another thread with this information started by the guy that wrote it. Don't you people look before starting a new thread?
XL2Win
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Followed by BOMC, Loch Ness monster, bigfoot, alien abductions and ...
hatchback
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Wow. I have also found it very unsettling at how little coverage ESPN has had of this whole thing.

I'm also no conspiracy theorist, but hear me out...

All ESPN can talk about right now is one of three things: 1. The first 1/2 of the MLB season; 2. The Lakers/Celtics NBA playoffs; and 3. the FIFA World Cup in South Africa.

Could this have been a perfect storm for ESPN and their national affiliates to have plenty of other stuff to cover aside from the shake-ups in the NCAA Conference Realignment of 2010? This is all a little to weird to have not been orchestrated in some manner or fashion. I mean, at least with the fishy Texas Tech/Adam James/ESPN-ABC scheme a few months ago that was all ESPN could talk about and it involved one of their head "analysts."

It is going to be very interesting to see how this continues to evolve in the coming weeks as the remaining Big12 schools announce their plans. I must say, it has been very odd to be getting news from sites like twitter and TexAgs and not from what had been trusted sources.
TexasAGitator
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Didn't the author of the original post also write that DeLoss Dodds was the shooter on the grassy knoll?
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I think it makes a lot of sense.

Everything might not be exactly so, but I would guarantee you that tu wouldn't want everything out in the open.

They are trying to turn the football world, and A&M has balked at their power play.

It's okay, wittle bevos, you can have tceh to pway wif!!!
CDub06
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Good read
BaronVonAggie
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Most of that was what I believed all along.

Obviously Texas issuing an ultimatum to Nebraska and simultaneously refusing to negotiate with them and publicly saying the Big 12 would die if they left was a ruse to destroy the conference.

Now we're not playing along with their games suddenly they've announced the Big 12 is resurrected. What happened to their original pronouncement of death for the Big 12 if Nebraska left? I'll tell you what happened WE didnt say how high when they said jump.

What they're doing is a pathetic last ditch attempt to keep us tied to them. They're so unconcerned about Texas A&M's potential that they're willing to drop their plans to go to the Pac 16 to keep us in the same conference.

For anyone who doubts A&Ms potential, read the above paragraph again and it should sink in.
Bob in Houston
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If this is right, why didn't the Big Ten anticipate (as it should have) that by going public at all that the chances of them actually having a 12-18 month process was almost zero?

This would also mean that the Pac-10 and Big Ten would have to "fight" over Texas, because that's basically what is happening.

Additionally, the Big Ten and Pac-10 would have had to foresee the political maneuvering in Texas, which they clearly did not because Texas had to tell the Big Ten about the "Tech problem." Perhaps not even Texas would have anticipated the "Tech problem."

Moreover, it forces the Pac-10 to accept schools that the bluest bloods among them have no interest (Tech and Oklahoma State).

Gotta remember, this isn't so much about A&M as it is about supposedly cutting off the SEC.

It's much more likely that Kevin Weiberg knew exactly which buttons to push to get the Pac-10 in position to grab Texas, when the Big Ten wanted Texas for itself.

Additionally, the SEC supposedly told A&M it had to find a partner (OU). If OU won't go for the deal, what's the SEC priority?

It'd be cool if this Rube Goldberg contraption really was a plan. Instead, I think it's just the usual maneuvering you see when people try to do what is best for them.
FingerMiracle87
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Where is Oliver Stone when you need him?
The Chicken Ranch
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TAMU will not have to look for a partner in the SEC. Cougar High is always the backstop.
The Real Maroon Blood
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Someone needs to sticky this bad boy...

I don't know if it's correct, but this has a "30 on 30" written all over it. Especially if you go back and look at the events of 1994.
The Real Maroon Blood
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LOL, someone email this to Oliver Stone.
Cannonball Craig III
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Very few people on this board make more intelligent posts than I do. But BaronVonAggie is certainly one of them.
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Bilbo Aggins
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quote:
Additionally, the SEC supposedly told A&M it had to find a partner (OU). If OU won't go for the deal, what's the SEC priority?


If you are trying to avoid getting frozen out of the Texas market, you cannot get too picky.

You need at least one to keep it from happening.
Wildcat
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We'll know he is onto something if the car of the college prof he is banging explodes and Denzel Washington protects him while breaking the story.
scottimus
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I love it
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