YouBet said:

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Could be. Are you as equally incredulous about the 2018 UN report that said we only had 12 years to resolve the environment?

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I am not incredulous at that figure at all but only depending on how you define "resolving the environment." The bomb has already fallen and out world population is not sustainable already. In other words, we don't have 12 years, it is already done. The next 50 years will see a drastic pop decline due to famine, polution, disease, war, etc.

12 years? Nah. Humanity is already on the decline due to our actions. It can't be saved. At least... half of us can't be

Sharpshooter said:

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The truth is, there is only 6 years left for some semblance of intelligence from the left.

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To lose something they first would have had to have it and the left have proven time and time again that they never had it.

The Left knows full well there is **** tons of oil and gas available. Their message is a sham.

It is all in my sig.....




(for the young ones that don't know "Red", it is Marxism/Communism)

knoxtom said:

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YouBet said:

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Could be. Are you as equally incredulous about the 2018 UN report that said we only had 12 years to resolve the environment?

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I am not incredulous at that figure at all but only depending on how you define "resolving the environment." The bomb has already fallen and out world population is not sustainable already. In other words, we don't have 12 years, it is already done. The next 50 years will see a drastic pop decline due to famine, polution, disease, war, etc.

12 years? Nah. Humanity is already on the decline due to our actions. It can't be saved. At least... half of us can't be

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I think we agree here. The UN report is based on fantasy that we must all pay higher taxes to global bodies to mitigate an arbitrary 1-2 degree change in Celsius. And that if we don't do that then we condemn the planet to Armageddon.

When in reality the issue will resolve itself because birth rates are already at a point that we can't recover...as you noted. Simple math. Unfortunately, the global elites not only want to steal more money from the producers in the meantime, but they also want to force the rest of us into an oppressive existence with loss of freedoms all in the name of climate justice / climate change.

Do liberals believe this? As far as I, a liberal who frequently interacts with other liberals both in real life and on the internet, can tell the answer is no. Honestly, I've never even heard this specific claim before. What I, and most people, do believe is that we are consuming oil at a much faster pace than it is naturally being produced and therefore there will come a day when when the easy flow of oil stops. Is that in a few decades? A century? Longer? I don't claim to know exactly, but it's coming eventually.

Having said that, you'd think the smart thing for America to do would be to sit on its oil reserves and let everyone else sell theirs while oil is still plentiful and cheap. Then when oil is becoming more and more scarce we'll still have plenty.

Rocag said:

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Do liberals believe this? As far as I, a liberal who frequently interacts with other liberals both in real life and on the internet, can tell the answer is no. Honestly, I've never even heard this specific claim before. What I, and most people, do believe is that we are consuming oil at a much faster pace than it is naturally being produced and therefore there will come a day when when the easy flow of oil stops. Is that in a few decades? A century? Longer? I don't claim to know exactly, but it's coming eventually.

Having said that, you'd think the smart thing for America to do would be to sit on its oil reserves and let everyone else sell theirs while oil is still plentiful and cheap. Then when oil is becoming more and more scarce we'll still have plenty.

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Don't worry. Biden has effectively done that by revoking federal permits.

Yeah, production's really hurting right now, huh?

If you look at your graph, Hubbert was spot on until we discovered a way to crack rocks and get the remainder. Before that, we were burning one to get two.

If you take another look, that second peak is just terminal lucidity.

Oil is finite, my liberal friend. No idea when it will end, but it will end.

rynning said:

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They've been saying this since 1973.

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When I was in middle school the teachers were talking about how in the near future we'd probably have to go back to horses and sailing ships.

"Imagine riding in a covered wagon school bus - wouldn't that be fun?". She actually said that to us with 100% conviction that it was going to happen.

50 years later - NOTHING has changed.
We still have plenty of oil.
And liberals don't like it.

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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The only reason there is a big push to move away from oil, and other efficient forms of energy, to "green" energy is that all of the elites and politicians, across the West, are invested in it. They know it is a scam.

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100% this. And to get votes. The green energy thing just panders to low information emotions and secures votes. But those votes go back to the politicians need for control to secure their investments. And a word of warning, anyone who says otherwise is simply an uniformed, low information voter and the essential part of this process.

sleepybeagle said:

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rynning said:

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They've been saying this since 1973.

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When I was in middle school the teachers were talking about how in the near future we'd probably have to go back to horses and sailing ships.

"Imagine riding in a covered wagon school bus - wouldn't that be fun?". She actually said that to us with 100% conviction that it was going to happen.

50 years later - NOTHING has changed.
We still have plenty of oil.
And liberals don't like it.

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To be fair, some districts someday may have to use horses to move those electric school buses when they can't be charged anymore.

sleepybeagle said:

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rynning said:

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They've been saying this since 1973.

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When I was in middle school the teachers were talking about how in the near future we'd probably have to go back to horses and sailing ships.

"Imagine riding in a covered wagon school bus - wouldn't that be fun?". She actually said that to us with 100% conviction that it was going to happen.

50 years later - NOTHING has changed.
We still have plenty of oil.
And liberals don't like it.

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Dysentery was so fun!