I thought this project was dead but the current administration is hell bent on wasting billions of dollars for a project that will be over budget, delayed and under utilized.
Choo Choo
If true, this goes back on about 1,000 promises they made that this would be privately funded 100% of the way. I would be furious if I were a landowner that made concessions for engineering/exploration access agreements for the pursuit phases of the project in 2017-2020, and they came back around and went back on their word.Quote:
A statement of support for the project from Biden and Kishida could create renewed efforts to bring it to fruition, including funding from the Department of Transportation and attracting private investors.
killbutchereat said:
High speed rail would be awesome. Also seems like something is working under this administration economically . https://gov.texas.gov/business/page/texas-economic-snapshot
Aggie_Boomin 21 said:
What about it would be awesome?
FIDO*98* said:Aggie_Boomin 21 said:
What about it would be awesome?
Riding on it. People trains are fun. Not saying it's worth it or should be done, but HSR is a cool way to see the world
Anyone who has been to Japan or Europe can attest to the usefulness of HSR. I'm not wading into these waters as it relates to HSR in Texas - ain't nobody changing their mind on that - but to say that it wouldn't be useful or awesome is completely missing the boat.FIDO*98* said:Aggie_Boomin 21 said:
What about it would be awesome?
Riding on it. People trains are fun. Not saying it's worth it or should be done, but HSR is a cool way to see the world
I agree it's an entertainment idea rather than a transportation idea. If there's a market for "a cool way to see the world", I'm sure there would be someone out there willing to take the business case for it. But calling it economical transportation between two cities that are so far apart is a flat out lie.FIDO*98* said:Aggie_Boomin 21 said:
What about it would be awesome?
Riding on it. People trains are fun. Not saying it's worth it or should be done, but HSR is a cool way to see the world
In what ways would HSR simply between Texas cities be useful or awesome?Quote:
but to say that it wouldn't be useful or awesome is completely missing the boat.
Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook all have it, so we should too!EFE said:
This sounds more like a Shelbyville idea…
Are you joking? Japan is 1.8 times smaller than Texas with over 4x the population. If you don't understand population density as it pertains to HSR, you are completely missing the boat.Snow Monkey Ambassador said:Anyone who has been to Japan or Europe can attest to the usefulness of HSR. I'm not wading into these waters as it relates to HSR in Texas - ain't nobody changing their mind on that - but to say that it wouldn't be useful or awesome is completely missing the boat.FIDO*98* said:Aggie_Boomin 21 said:
What about it would be awesome?
Riding on it. People trains are fun. Not saying it's worth it or should be done, but HSR is a cool way to see the world
Snow Monkey Ambassador said:Anyone who has been to Japan or Europe can attest to the usefulness of HSR. I'm not wading into these waters as it relates to HSR in Texas - ain't nobody changing their mind on that - but to say that it wouldn't be useful or awesome is completely missing the boat.FIDO*98* said:Aggie_Boomin 21 said:
What about it would be awesome?
Riding on it. People trains are fun. Not saying it's worth it or should be done, but HSR is a cool way to see the world
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I'm not wading into these waters as it relates to HSR in Texas - ain't nobody changing their mind on that . . .
Except then you did anyway.Snow Monkey Ambassador said:
Feels like a lot of y'all missed this part of the post:Quote:
I'm not wading into these waters as it relates to HSR in Texas - ain't nobody changing their mind on that . . .
Have they stated where the station in Dallas would be? The amount of rideshares needed would be through the roof. With the people running this, I am guessing they want the station to be in South Dallas by the Cotton Bowl for "economic development" purposes... the crime around there is so bad no one would want to use the station.HTownAg98 said:
The biggest problem in Texas is climate. Who wants to get off a train in Houston or Dallas in August and walk five blocks to a meeting? You'll have to have an abundance of rideshare operators to even think about it being somewhat feasible. We also don't have a network of commuter rail to work once you get to your destination. It's just a mess.
population density in those two countries, not to mention just density of the city private and public services are 10X higher than most US cities.Snow Monkey Ambassador said:Anyone who has been to Japan or Europe can attest to the usefulness of HSR. I'm not wading into these waters as it relates to HSR in Texas - ain't nobody changing their mind on that - but to say that it wouldn't be useful or awesome is completely missing the boat.FIDO*98* said:Aggie_Boomin 21 said:
What about it would be awesome?
Riding on it. People trains are fun. Not saying it's worth it or should be done, but HSR is a cool way to see the world
I love taking the trains around Europe. But, I have my doubts that this will be as easy to board as a train in Europe. We will no doubt have way more security lines to deal with.Windy City Ag said:
You just can't compare the ease of hopping on a train, lounging and enjoying the bar car, and rolling into a new station in quick time. The alternative is TSA groping, likely delays, a cramped cattle car flight, baggage carousels, and rush hour traffic to get home.
Everyone will want a piece of the pie. Parking lot fees, parking security, bag checks and some sort of bag check security, over priced frozen foods, $$ wifi. It will be a racket.Furlock Bones said:I love taking the trains around Europe. But, I have my doubts that this will be as easy to board as a train in Europe. We will no doubt have way more security lines to deal with.Windy City Ag said:
You just can't compare the ease of hopping on a train, lounging and enjoying the bar car, and rolling into a new station in quick time. The alternative is TSA groping, likely delays, a cramped cattle car flight, baggage carousels, and rush hour traffic to get home.
I have never in my life been groped by TSA.Windy City Ag said:
Count me in as someone who would definitely use it if it came to be. I lived overseas and absolutely loved the Channel Tunnel and generally available and high quality rail service. I used to scoot between Philly and NYC as well on the Amtrak.
You just can't compare the ease of hopping on a train, lounging and enjoying the bar car, and rolling into a new station in quick time. The alternative is TSA groping, likely delays, a cramped cattle car flight, baggage carousels, and rush hour traffic to get home.
And looking at the original plan, there was even a Brazos Valley station.
The Dallas terminus was slated for behind the convention center.
I say all this realizing it is a low probability boondoggle but it still would be cool.
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I love taking the trains around Europe. But, I have my doubts that this will be as easy to board as a train in Europe. We will no doubt have way more security lines to deal with.