Agree.

I was stunned when I heard Painter had been head coach at Purdue for 19 years. I knew it had been a while, but not nearly two decades.

Good for Painter and Purdue!

I hate the instant gratification mindset that seems to have infiltrated everything these days. That's my old man yelling at cloud statement for the day.

Biz Ag said:

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Agree.

I was stunned when I heard Painter had been head coach at Purdue for 19 years. I knew it had been a while, but not nearly two decades.

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When the tech startup I joined in 2003 started to grow, years later we had Painter (who was new to Purdue) come speak at our little sales dinner. Hadn't thought of his name until I heard he was still coaching Purdue this year.

Great coach and a great fit at Purdue

It's not just fit though; there's at least SOME level of success you need to have.

We all know there's a portion of every fan base that just can't wait to fire the coach, but of the realistic part of the fan base, it was a worthy question back in February of whether the level of success Buzz was achieving was good enough. At the time it looked like we were heading for the NIT.

But then we pulled out of the funk, made the tournament, and won a game. So no sane fan of ours thinks we should fire Buzz. The bar here is very low. You just need to make the field more often than not, and you're the best coach in program history and there's no chance we'll fire you.

But there is still a bar.

Painter made the tournament his second year and then didn't miss it again for six years, winning at least one game every year. (That alone would make you the best coach in A&M history.) He then missed it twice in a row and now hasn't missed it since.

Painter (who I went to high school with - he's a couple years younger) also was only the second 1 seed to lose to a 16 seed.

I am also surprised it's been that long that he's coached there. Time flies.

But overall he has had sustained success there and they have not over reacted to a few blips along the way.

Edited to correct that they were the 2nd 1 seed to lose in the first round.

Double Diamond said:

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. A&M can't do better than Buzz Williams.

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I very pro Buzz, but I think it is possible to do better. However, I also think if we fired him it is more likely we would end up worse.

As others have stated, the bar is making the tourney "most" years. Do that and you eventually catch some breaks and make a run. Hopefully, next year we put together a complete season and get a good seed.

bobinator said:

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It's not just fit though; there's at least SOME level of success you need to have.

We all know there's a portion of every fan base that just can't wait to fire the coach, but of the realistic part of the fan base, it was a worthy question back in February of whether the level of success Buzz was achieving was good enough. At the time it looked like we were heading for the NIT.

But then we pulled out of the funk, made the tournament, and won a game. So no sane fan of ours thinks we should fire Buzz. The bar here is very low. You just need to make the field more often than not, and you're the best coach in program history and there's no chance we'll fire you.

But there is still a bar.

Painter made the tournament his second year and then didn't miss it again for six years, winning at least one game every year. (That alone would make you the best coach in A&M history.) He then missed it twice in a row and now hasn't missed it since.

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Go look at Painter lots and lots and lots of first weekend endings. After 19 years he has had a few sweet 16s but it isn't many.

Things were looking kinda shaky before the South Carolina game. We got back on track at that point and ended up having a very good year.

Buzz deserves a lot of credit for the very good year we had.

I think buzz is a good guy who gets a lot out of his players, and his players really like him in spite of him working them harder than most coaches. That's not an easy thing to accomplish.

I wish he could recruit a little better but maybe he's hamstrung by lack of NIL money. I don't think any of us know for sure, but it seems like we miss on a lot of players because we are outbid.

I am optimistic about next year with 5 good players returning including a possible all American, one of the very best rebounders/defenders in America, a blossoming possible all conference guard (manny) and solo with all conference type talent.

I hope buzz tweaks our defensive scheme of giving away the baseline without trapping it because our defense needs to be better next year if we want to have a great year.

I think buzz has our guys playing very hard defensively, but that little schematic tweak could improve our defense significantly imo.

We also need a couple of transfers, most importantly a guard who can handle it and score.