Sky high superintendent salaries

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https://texasscorecard.com/state/texas-taxpayers-continue-to-fund-sky-high-superintendent-salaries/

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Newly released Texas Education Agency data for the 2023-24 school year shows eight superintendents with salaries above $400,000 and another 81 receiving $300,000 or more.

Texas' highest-paid school superintendent was again Cypress-Fairbanks ISD's Mark Henry, who pulled down a base salary of $536,775 before retiring in December 2023.
Wowzers. I guess the real money in education is at the top.


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The numbers for mega-districts with massive enrollment aren't as problematic. But what about the districts on that list with under 10,000 kids???
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ThunderCougarFalconBird said:

The numbers for mega-districts with massive enrollment aren't as problematic. But what about the districts on that list with under 10,000 kids???
They rich I guess. I wonder if they pay their supt. more they don't have to Robin Hood that back to the state?
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They are all problematic. Very problematic.
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ThunderCougarFalconBird said:

The numbers for mega-districts with massive enrollment aren't as problematic. But what about the districts on that list with under 10,000 kids???
Yup, #2 on the list has <8k students.
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Wowzers. I guess the real money in education is at the top.
Always been that way. Salaries for principals is pretty high as well. I can somewhat understand that as they are on the front lines and handling issues on school grounds. I'm sorry, but Superintendents are glorified spokespeople and have very little impact on day to day function and success of a school system. Those salaries should probably be closer to the $150k-$200k for the top end.
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techno-ag said:

ThunderCougarFalconBird said:

The numbers for mega-districts with massive enrollment aren't as problematic. But what about the districts on that list with under 10,000 kids???
They rich I guess. I wonder if they pay their supt. more they don't have to Robin Hood that back to the state?
Barbers Hill would be a lot of Petrochem money, right?
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So you want someone to take responsibility as the head of an organization with over 1000 employees, thousands of students and the current political atmosphere for 100-200k?
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Aggie95 said:

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ThunderCougarFalconBird said:

The numbers for mega-districts with massive enrollment aren't as problematic. But what about the districts on that list with under 10,000 kids???
They rich I guess. I wonder if they pay their supt. more they don't have to Robin Hood that back to the state?
Barbers Hill would be a lot of Petrochem money, right?
Looks like it.

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Established in 1929, Barbers Hill ISD has a rich tradition of community involvement and school pride. The fabric of the district's story is interwoven with that of the petrochemical industry, beginning with the discovery of oil in the early 1900s, through the development in the 1950s of the Mont Belvieu salt dome.

Today, the district serves more than 7,000 students and employs over 1,200 teachers and staff.

As Barbers Hill approaches its centennial year, the district continues to have phenomenal growth driven by academic, athletic and financial successes.

https://www.bhisd.net/
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techno-ag said:

Aggie95 said:

techno-ag said:

ThunderCougarFalconBird said:

The numbers for mega-districts with massive enrollment aren't as problematic. But what about the districts on that list with under 10,000 kids???
They rich I guess. I wonder if they pay their supt. more they don't have to Robin Hood that back to the state?
Barbers Hill would be a lot of Petrochem money, right?
Looks like it.

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Established in 1929, Barbers Hill ISD has a rich tradition of community involvement and school pride. The fabric of the district's story is interwoven with that of the petrochemical industry, beginning with the discovery of oil in the early 1900s, through the development in the 1950s of the Mont Belvieu salt dome.

Today, the district serves more than 7,000 students and employs over 1,200 teachers and staff.

As Barbers Hill approaches its centennial year, the district continues to have phenomenal growth driven by academic, athletic and financial successes.

https://www.bhisd.net/


They also are the ones that keep fighting the CROWN act and have very strong standards driven by their community. It doesn't surprise me they pay their superintendent more.
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EPD has stuff there.

Great tax rate though.

That's where the former Allen football coach Westerberg went, although he may be the AD now.
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Txgunrnnr said:

ThunderCougarFalconBird said:

The numbers for mega-districts with massive enrollment aren't as problematic. But what about the districts on that list with under 10,000 kids???
Yup, #2 on the list has <8k students.
They also have top ranked schools and are flush with cash from local industry
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no one should be making more money than the H.I.S.D. superintendent

that guy has his hands full and then some
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Well good for him if everybody's happy. Half a million a year almost. Wow. If any kid of mine wants to go into education I know the direction to steer them.
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No school superintendent deserves that much of a salary for ruining the education system. How about some performance metrics?
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How much would a CEO of a company with 1000-6000 employees make?
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One of our most intelligent presidents was self taught, to a large extent, by reading next to his fireplace at night and worked as a rail splitter during the day. Something tells me we are doing it wrong. Until we quit listening to do-gooder leftist scum I don't think much will change.
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Aggie95 said:

techno-ag said:

ThunderCougarFalconBird said:

The numbers for mega-districts with massive enrollment aren't as problematic. But what about the districts on that list with under 10,000 kids???
They rich I guess. I wonder if they pay their supt. more they don't have to Robin Hood that back to the state?
Barbers Hill would be a lot of Petrochem money, right?


It's basically Baytown. I never thought of it as affluent
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Every Superintendent in the state of Texas has 7 bosses (Board of Trustees) who are elected by the local constituency. They set the Supt salary and are legally required to conduct an annual evaluation of the Supts performance, including accountability and measurable goals.

But I guess you're against local control. I guess you're a liberal.
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SuhrThang said:

No school superintendent deserves that much of a salary for ruining the education system. How about some performance metrics?
Win football games, keep tax rate low is a longetivity formula in some Texas towns. Academics be damned.
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Owlagdad said:

How much would a CEO of a company with 1000-6000 employees make?
Depends. Do they turn a profit?
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SuhrThang said:

No school superintendent deserves that much of a salary for ruining the education system. How about some performance metrics?


That's the standardized testing the kids take every year, and pretty much all they prepare for in the spring semester.
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geoag58 said:

One of our most intelligent presidents was self taught, to a large extent, by reading next to his fireplace at night and worked as a rail splitter during the day. Something tells me we are doing it wrong. Until we quit listening to do-gooder leftist scum I don't think much will change.
Same dude is also responsible for sending us down the path we're on.
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I thought teachers were underpaid?
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But I guess you're against local control. I guess you're a liberal.

Strawman arguments not being made in good faith. Trolling.
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P.H. Dexippus said:

Owlagdad said:

How much would a CEO of a company with 1000-6000 employees make?
Depends. Do they turn a profit?
LOL, and a Supt ought to get run off just like underperforming CEO.
Yall do know a Supt often finds his own guys to run for school board -- its not hard to stack the deck.
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Slicer97 said:

geoag58 said:

One of our most intelligent presidents was self taught, to a large extent, by reading next to his fireplace at night and worked as a rail splitter during the day. Something tells me we are doing it wrong. Until we quit listening to do-gooder leftist scum I don't think much will change.
Same dude is also responsible for sending us down the path we're on.


Are you saying we would have been better off if Abe had gone to a government school?
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SuhrThang said:

No school superintendent deserves that much of a salary for ruining the education system. How about some performance metrics?
A little while ago I did a correlation on STAAR metrics for districts and compared them to superintendent pay, the correlation coefficient was at like 0.2.
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Fenrir said:

SuhrThang said:

No school superintendent deserves that much of a salary for ruining the education system. How about some performance metrics?
A little while ago I did a correlation on STAAR metrics for districts and compared them to superintendent pay, the correlation coefficient was at like 0.2.
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You conveniently left out 95% of my post. Hey pot, meet kettle.

If you have a problem with a Superintendent's salary, you can blame the 7 elected board members and the community in which they represent. Or if the community has a problem with it, they can vote to elect new board members who will find a cheaper superintendent.

So yes, it seems you have a problem with local control and the democratic process.
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The System said:

You conveniently left out 95% of my post. Hey pot, meet kettle.

If you have a problem with a Superintendent's salary, you can blame the 7 elected board members and the community in which they represent. Or if the community has a problem with it, they can vote to elect new board members who will find a cheaper superintendent.

So yes, it seems you have a problem with local control and the democratic process.
No, that's not a case of pot meet kettle. That's not what that phrase means at all. I didn't make an assertion about your argument. Hard for me to build a strawman when I didn't make any claims about your positions. I merely called out someone for making a strawman argument which is exactly what you did. Nobody on here has called for a state law to cap super pay so not sure how anyone is taking away local control. Bringing the issue to discussion does nothing of the sort. What you're doing is trying to stifle any discussion.

In fact with your last sentence you're still creating a strawman. It's pathetic and should be embarrassing from someone that presumably finished and got their degree if you're not actually trolling.
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SouthTex99 said:

It's cheaper to pay a great superintendent a big salary than a bad superintendent a low salary. Much cheaper.
Lol, sure thing. My fav is the Lake Travis guy making over $400k. There is one HS in Lake Travis and he has a Principal. So what exactly does he do that creates so much value?

I mean it's all good I guess but just don't tell me about how teachers are underpaid. The only time I have really heard from our Super in the last year or two is when he was complaining about anything around vouchers or how we needed to give them more money. Pretty clear as to why.

Oh, and my HS spends well below the average for Texas per pupil and the least of the 6 schools in our District yet we dominate in academics and sports and virtually every EC activity. The idea that money creates better schools is such a joke.
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Principals in some HIsD schools don't get paid enough for what they have to deal with on a daily basis.

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LMAO

Yay, public schools.
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