What happened in Stalingrad influenced how I looked at the battle for Bakhmut. The major lessons from Stalingrad were applicable to Bakhmut.LMCane said:
Seriously may be the single best war movie of all time.
STALINGRAD
1993 German production
It is said Hanibal could not attack and defeat Rome because he did not have the necessary siege weapons.p_bubel said:
I have thought about the utility of wearing bright red uniforms in green forests and fields. I spoke with a British MAJ when we were in Iraq. He informed me they wore red coats to hide the blood when the soldiers were shot.74OA said:
"Last of the Mohicans" one of many scenes.
There was a small team of female Royal Navy Sailors who were instrumental in developing Atlantic convoy procedures. They were called the WRENS and were divided into two teams during the table exercises. Essentially, they played the game "Battleship" using real historic data. The teams were partitioned and blind to the actions of the other team. This is how they wargamed it. They were trying to solve how U-Boats were able to infiltrate into the middle of the convoy to fire its torpedoes. One evening they were so intent on solving this problem they worked all night and into the morning hours. They decided the U-Boats were able to infiltrate the convoys by chasing it from behind then submerging as it entered the convoy area of operations. The rear of the convoy was the only part of the convoy that was not monitored by listening devices and sonar.malenurse said:
ja86 said:
the British wore red coats to hide the blood is a myth, they wore red starting in Cromwell's army because red wool was cheap and available, the tradition lasted until after the boer war
It was said the British marched a good distance wearing the thick red coats to fight at the battle of New Orleans in the War of 1812. Water was scarce and many were dehydrated. The British army was not in premium shape to attack well defended Americans.Sapper Redux said:ja86 said:
the British wore red coats to hide the blood is a myth, they wore red starting in Cromwell's army because red wool was cheap and available, the tradition lasted until after the boer war
Technically British infantry started wearing read in Ireland under the Tutors. It became universal under the New Model Army. Red was also easier to see amongst the smoke. Exceptionally important for officers during 18th century linear warfare.
I like the opening battle scene from Gladiator.74OA said:
Great selections. My problem choosing is I have so many more favorite battle/fighting scenes.
For example, in these movies:
Lawrence of Arabia
We Were Soldiers
In Harm's Way
Master and Commander
Outlaw Josie Wales
Letters From Iwo Jima
Black Hawk Down
The Thin Red Line
Rob Roy
Jeremiah Johnson
Ronin
Last Samurai
The Lighthorsemen
Good catch. So many. "Open Range" and "Fury", too.Tanker123 said:I like the opening battle scene from Gladiator.74OA said:
Great selections. My problem choosing is I have so many more favorite battle/fighting scenes.
For example, in these movies:
Lawrence of Arabia
We Were Soldiers
In Harm's Way
Master and Commander
Outlaw Josie Wales
Letters From Iwo Jima
Black Hawk Down
The Thin Red Line
Rob Roy
Jeremiah Johnson
Ronin
Last Samurai
The Lighthorsemen
And they forgot their ladders.Tanker123 said:It was said the British marched a good distance wearing the thick red coats to fight at the battle of New Orleans in the War of 1812. Water was scarce and many were dehydrated. The British army was not in premium shape to attack well defended Americans.Sapper Redux said:ja86 said:
the British wore red coats to hide the blood is a myth, they wore red starting in Cromwell's army because red wool was cheap and available, the tradition lasted until after the boer war
Technically British infantry started wearing read in Ireland under the Tutors. It became universal under the New Model Army. Red was also easier to see amongst the smoke. Exceptionally important for officers during 18th century linear warfare.
Yeah, and they were spent! lolGhost of Andrew Eaton said:And they forgot their ladders.Tanker123 said:It was said the British marched a good distance wearing the thick red coats to fight at the battle of New Orleans in the War of 1812. Water was scarce and many were dehydrated. The British army was not in premium shape to attack well defended Americans.Sapper Redux said:ja86 said:
the British wore red coats to hide the blood is a myth, they wore red starting in Cromwell's army because red wool was cheap and available, the tradition lasted until after the boer war
Technically British infantry started wearing read in Ireland under the Tutors. It became universal under the New Model Army. Red was also easier to see amongst the smoke. Exceptionally important for officers during 18th century linear warfare.
He was respected so much that he was promoted to BG and was in the house where Lee surrendered.Bighunter43 said:
Great topic!! Hard to pick a favorite…..just a few worth mentioning:
OK Corral in Tombstone.
The Patriot when he rescued his son.
Several scenes from the new Midway.
Gus & Pea fighting off Indians in Lonesome Dove.
The Irish Brigade charging the wall and fighting Cobb's 24th Georgia Regiment (Irish) in God's and Generals (boring movie overall….but the Fredericksburg scenes are good).
However….my personal favorite is the 20th Maine with Chamberlain defending Little Round Top in Gettysburg!! (Might be over dramatized but it gave me goose bumps at the theater!!)
The battle was in January 1815 and conditions were rather cold and wet and not as one thinks of hot/humid New OrleansTanker123 said:It was said the British marched a good distance wearing the thick red coats to fight at the battle of New Orleans in the War of 1812. Water was scarce and many were dehydrated. The British army was not in premium shape to attack well defended Americans.Sapper Redux said:ja86 said:
the British wore red coats to hide the blood is a myth, they wore red starting in Cromwell's army because red wool was cheap and available, the tradition lasted until after the boer war
Technically British infantry started wearing read in Ireland under the Tutors. It became universal under the New Model Army. Red was also easier to see amongst the smoke. Exceptionally important for officers during 18th century linear warfare.
It was long ago, but Josh was in the parlor. I recall we all hit the bar afterwards and he bought a round.BQ78 said:
Chamberlain was not in the McLean Parlor when Lee surrendered, he was with his division on the battle line.
But he did accept the surrender of the Confederate troops the next day when they stacked arms. Chamberlain's record of that day in his memoirs is highly romanticized and led John Gordon to include the same story in his memoirs (but he never spoke of them until Chamberlain's memoirs came out). Those two falsely created legends about the event that are not supported by any other accounts.
