An EMP today would be inconvenient.

But in 50 years, we'd go back to the stone age .

Color me surprised.

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An EMP today would be inconvenient.

But in 50 years, we'd go back to the stone age .

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Read "One Second After".

An EMP or severe Mass Coronal Ejection from the sun could do some pretty catastrophic damage to a large region. Let's hope it isn't here in the US.

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Guy did a ton of research to write that book, so much so that some of the US military made it standard reading. Within a year 90% of people in the south would be dead, something like 70% of people on meds dead within 60 days since there would be no way to get refills

The Fife said:

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There's a good two or three of us in the neighborhood whose cars would still work after an EMP, so there's that anyway.

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Hate to tell you. but IIRC, and EMP takes out all electronics, even analog.

this was basically the Netflix movie with Julia Roberts that came out a few weeks ago..

and if there is ever an EMP set off over Chicago, the USA will rapidly collapse.

Why 90% of South?

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this was basically the Netflix movie with Julia Roberts that came out a few weeks ago..

and if there is ever an EMP set off over Chicago, the USA will rapidly collapse.

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Why Chicago?

Do they want RTKs? This is how you get RTKs.

Not that that's a bad thing.

It is so hot and we won't have any way to preserve meat without refrigeration. Most people won't be able to get food plots developed enough to prevent starvation.

One Second After started me on the path.

Read the 12 book series by A. American. Each book has "Home" in the title (Going Home, Surviving Home, Conflicted Home, etc...). Also read Johnathan Hollerman's EMP series. Both are fiction based around an EMP on the U.S. All have good tips and tricks throughout.

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An EMP today would be inconvenient.

But in 50 years, we'd go back to the stone age .

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Huh? Is this a quote from 1915?

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Probably understated but I meant inconvenient as far as civilizational survival. There are still people alive today who would be able to function without the technology that would be taken out by an EMP. That number is shrinking each generation to a point where there won't be a large enough population to maintain civilization. Maybe, we're already to that point.

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this is an awful take

sure, there are some farmers in the midwest who may be able to survive by digging their crops BY HAND

but to think the rest of the country can survive with no vehicles is pretty insane. who delivers food to the inner cities? horse drawn wagons?!

once that starts, it's open season for much of the population to begin to attack their neighbors.

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this was basically the Netflix movie with Julia Roberts that came out a few weeks ago..

and if there is ever an EMP set off over Chicago, the USA will rapidly collapse.

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it's the middle of the country for a nuclear airburst to set off an EMP with the greatest effect. also takes out the most arable farmland

This, and our logistics is based on technology. We have one of the most complex supply chains out there (it is amazing on how good it is as well) and if we lose electricity it comes to a halt.

You would most military bases and placed like Amazon have protection, they do not. The lead times for replacement parts to get them up and running would be over a year and any help from overseas would take months

The main reason other countries don't drop an EMP is we could do the same

The Fife said:

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There's a good two or three of us in the neighborhood whose cars would still work after an EMP, so there's that anyway.

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Well, at least according to Wiki, my earlier statement on cars is likely incorrect.

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An EMP would probably not affect most cars, despite modern cars' heavy use of electronics, because cars' electronic circuits and cabling are likely too short to be affected. In addition, cars' metallic frames provide some protection. However, even a small percentage of cars breaking down due to an electronic malfunction would cause traffic jams.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse#cite_note-metaR320-41][41][/url]

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Pinochet said:

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Do they want RTKs? This is how you get RTKs.

Not that that's a bad thing.

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My Google-fu is failing to help me determine what the acronym RTK is

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There's a good two or three of us in the neighborhood whose cars would still work after an EMP, so there's that anyway.

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Well, at least according to Wiki, my earlier statement on cars is likely incorrect.

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An EMP would probably not affect most cars, despite modern cars' heavy use of electronics, because cars' electronic circuits and cabling are likely too short to be affected. In addition, cars' metallic frames provide some protection. However, even a small percentage of cars breaking down due to an electronic malfunction would cause traffic jams.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse#cite_note-metaR320-41][41][/url]

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I think older cars would be a lot more suspectable to an EMP pulse than new cars.

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Do they want RTKs? This is how you get RTKs.

Not that that's a bad thing.

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My Google-fu is failing to help me determine what the acronym RTK is

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An alternative to GPS satellites.

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There's a good two or three of us in the neighborhood whose cars would still work after an EMP, so there's that anyway.

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Well, at least according to Wiki, my earlier statement on cars is likely incorrect.

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An EMP would probably not affect most cars, despite modern cars' heavy use of electronics, because cars' electronic circuits and cabling are likely too short to be affected. In addition, cars' metallic frames provide some protection. However, even a small percentage of cars breaking down due to an electronic malfunction would cause traffic jams.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse#cite_note-metaR320-41][41][/url]

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I think older cars would be a lot more suspectable to an EMP pulse than new cars.

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Wouldn't the modern electronics tend to make the new cars far more susceptible? It doesn't take much of a surge to burn out modern chips.