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Well, can't exactly say you're a conservative if you vote for Trump either

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Way to try to be edgy, but completely DUMB!

Trump is far from perfect conservative, but he's far and away the most conservative candidate still in the race!

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So, vote for the less liberal guy? Cause there isn't a conservative option.

Strategy:

Team Trump feels that RFKJ will draw more third party votes from Dems looking for an alternative to a terrible Biden than from Trump himself. Therefore, keep RFKJ in the news as much as possible and make him seem like the more effective anti-Trump opponent to divide the Dem vote.

I think it's pretty clear that Trump is more worried about RFK pulling votes from him.

That's why he is emphasizing that he is "worse than Biden."


Personally, I think it is nuts that a person could be on the fence between RFK and Trump. But even on this board, there are lots of bizarre people that try to justify that.

Russ Dalrymple said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Well, can't exactly say you're a conservative if you vote for Trump either

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Way to try to be edgy, but completely DUMB!

Trump is far from perfect conservative, but he's far and away the most conservative candidate still in the race!

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So, vote for the less liberal guy? Cause there isn't a conservative option.

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There is an option that has proven he's for
Border security
Lower taxes
Energy independence
Strong foreign policy
Not starting new wars
Getting out of horrible trade deals

And will actually publicly fight for these policies.
And will actually challenge Republicans that are not for these.

This Smerconish piece shows RFK's impact in the polls.

I think Trump drew in a lot of people because he said he was an outsider and would "drain the swamp". He did nothing of the sort. Maybe those same people are drawn to RFK.

Either way, Trump sounds like his normal unhinged self in his tweets where RFK shows he can call Trump an idiot without getting into a mudslinging match.

Im Gipper said:

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I think it's pretty clear that Trump is more worried about RFK pulling votes from him.

That's why he is emphasizing that he is "worse than Biden."


Personally, I think it is nuts that a person could be on the fence between RFK and Trump. But even on this board, there are lots of bizarre people that try to justify that.

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I feel the same way about those hardcore Trump supporters who only blame Biden for inflation when Trump signed 2 massive stimulus bills loaded with pork that got it all started. They won't admit that both of those bozos are to blame.

Russ Dalrymple said:

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Well, can't exactly say you're a conservative if you vote for Trump either

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Elections are binary. A non-vote or third-party vote only helps the dims

Im Gipper said:

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Well, can't exactly say you're a conservative if you vote for Trump either

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Way to try to be edgy, but completely DUMB!

Trump is far from perfect conservative, but he's far and away the most conservative candidate still in the race!

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Only because Maga made sure DeSantis, who's been a conservative his entire life and done amazing conservative things in Florida (DeSantis) and never had a chance.

But yes, as the only candidate left standing, Trump is the most conservative one left.

Im Gipper said:

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I think it's pretty clear that Trump is more worried about RFK pulling votes from him.

That's why he is emphasizing that he is "worse than Biden."


Personally, I think it is nuts that a person could be on the fence between RFK and Trump. But even on this board, there are lots of bizarre people that try to justify that.

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From what I've seen online, it seems that RFK pulls the Kraken, Q, tin foil types who, even when their guy. is in office, that person can never do enough to "drain the swamp." And because of this, these "nuts" as you say, see RFK as someone who doesn't have a record of not draining the swamp, so why not give him a try, as maybe this time, this new "outsider" will take whatever they see as a threat down.
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Trump wants Never Trumpers to vote for RFK and not Biden. So by making RFK an enemy he is hoping to divide the votes against trump.

Makes more sense for Never Trumpers to just sit this one out. RFK won't even pull the votes Ross Perot did.

Im Gipper said:

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Right or wrong, Trump views Jr as a threat.

I actually watched, first time in a long time, ratings challenged Bill Maher’s really boring interview with RFK Jr. last night, only to find that Junior’ is far more LIBERAL than Maher and, in fact, far more LIBERAL than anyone running as a Democrat, including West and Stein. Yet…

— Donald J. Trump Posts From His Truth Social (@TrumpDailyPosts) April 28, 2024

Trump tells the absolute truth here:

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No Republican can vote for this guy.

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If you are contemplating voting for RFK Jr, don't ever dare to claim you are conservative again!

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A Progressive Conservative perhaps.

This is ironic and funny because RFK Jr is a right-wing plant. Just look at his big backers and campaign surrogates.

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A Progressive Conservative perhaps.

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Reminds me of:

LBGTQ+ for Hamas
Catholics for Choice
Democrats for Common Sense

Trump is right about who RFK is, but dammit the way he sounds on X is embarrassing.

Russ Dalrymple said:

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Im Gipper said:

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I think it's pretty clear that Trump is more worried about RFK pulling votes from him.

That's why he is emphasizing that he is "worse than Biden."

Personally, I think it is nuts that a person could be on the fence between RFK and Trump. But even on this board, there are lots of bizarre people that try to justify that.

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I feel the same way about those hardcore Trump supporters who only blame Biden for inflation when Trump signed 2 massive stimulus bills loaded with pork that got it all started. They won't admit that both of those bozos are to blame.

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In my experience reading this forum most people defending President Trump absolutely admit the spending during COVID by Congress under President Trump was insane and not conservative.
I seem to remember most people that voted for President Trump have also complained his egregious spending was uncalled for and failure to fire Fauci and Birx.

"golly if Trump hates junior, then I love junior. Junior might get my never-trump vote after all."

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Russ Dalrymple said:

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Well, can't exactly say you're a conservative if you vote for Trump either

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Elections are binary. A non-vote or third-party vote only helps the dims

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Correct and by broadcasting this to family, friends, coworkers and on social media only exasperates the cognitive dissonance.

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"golly if Trump hates junior, then I love junior. Junior might get my never-trump vote after all."

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Sarcasm duly noted.

MouthBQ98 said:

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Strategy:

Team Trump feels that RFKJ will draw more third party votes from Dems looking for an alternative to a terrible Biden than from Trump himself. Therefore, keep RFKJ in the news as much as possible and make him seem like the more effective anti-Trump opponent to divide the Dem vote.

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we've spent the last decade with Trump and at this point know better than to assume there's a secret strategy at play here.

more likely his campaign's internal polling is showing rfk steals more votes from him than biden, enough so that trump feels threatened enough to lash out.

Voting for someone who has no chance to win is a wasted vote. It is going to be Biden or Trump. Pick the one whose policies will be best for our country.

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This is ironic and funny because RFK Jr is a right-wing plant. Just look at his big backers and campaign surrogates.

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this much has been plainly obvious from the beginning of rfk's campaign. perplexing that the right propped him up as a biden spoiler, when his whole vibe is tailored to low-institutional-trust voters who skew toward trump.

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Seems strange to me also.

It's the "issues don't matter, just personality" bloc of voters that are picking between Trump and RFK. There's no way any person that thinks about issues would have such different candidates as the two they are choosing between!

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Things have changed with regard to the political divide in America. What used to be "left vs. right" and "haves vs. have nots" has changed to "establishment vs. outsiders". That is what appeals to many voters - disrupting the ruling class, elites, and entrenched establishment.

Exactly. Its the "issues don't matter" crowd. Easily duped by platitudes and promises of "I'm an outsider! Trust me"

Im Gipper said:

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Exactly. Its the "issues don't matter" crowd. Easily duped by platitudes and promises of "I'm an outsider! Trust me"

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Not exactly. There was very little difference between "left" and "right" with regard to the pressing issues of foreign aid to Ukraine, deficit spending, the border, and their responses to Covid. Kennedy and Trump largely agree on those issues (except Trump has the indicated he's more willing to give money we don't have to Ukraine). The establishment Republicans have done nothing to fix immigration or curb deficit spending all while involving the U.S. in costly and futile foreign wars. On those policies, they've allied with their establishment Democrat buddies. The issues very much matter, but where candidates stand on issues is more often determined by whether they are establishment more so than party affiliation.

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A Progressive Conservative perhaps.

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Reminds me of:

LBGTQ+ for Hamas
Catholics for Choice
Democrats for Common Sense

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Perhaps not?