Well the two important guys are playing, yes. But having just traded Grant, and Exum and Lively still out, it's definitely a B-team-heavy game tonight.Infection_Ag11 said:
Looks like everyone is playing tonight for Dallas
shack009 said:
I think people are overreacting a little bit to Dinwiddie. There's a reason he's a buyout guy now.
zgolfz85 said:shack009 said:
I think people are overreacting a little bit to Dinwiddie. There's a reason he's a buyout guy now.
Give me another guy that can actually find a shot not named Luka or Kyrie or thj (kind of)
M.C. Swag said:
He's not gonna save a franchise but he was awesome for the Mavs as the 3rd Guard. He'd be perfect Kyrie/Exum insurance and would basically guarantee THJ never plays if we don't absolutely have to play him.
shack009 said:M.C. Swag said:
He's not gonna save a franchise but he was awesome for the Mavs as the 3rd Guard. He'd be perfect Kyrie/Exum insurance and would basically guarantee THJ never plays if we don't absolutely have to play him.
I'd take him if that were true about THJ, but I think Kidd thinks THJ is really good for this team.
shack009 said:M.C. Swag said:
He's not gonna save a franchise but he was awesome for the Mavs as the 3rd Guard. He'd be perfect Kyrie/Exum insurance and would basically guarantee THJ never plays if we don't absolutely have to play him.
I'd take him if that were true about THJ, but I think Kidd thinks THJ is really good for this team.
I agree with that. I wouldn't want him taking away minutes from Exum, when Exum is good to go. Not sure we have any idea what is going on with him though.M.C. Swag said:shack009 said:M.C. Swag said:
He's not gonna save a franchise but he was awesome for the Mavs as the 3rd Guard. He'd be perfect Kyrie/Exum insurance and would basically guarantee THJ never plays if we don't absolutely have to play him.
I'd take him if that were true about THJ, but I think Kidd thinks THJ is really good for this team.
Well either way we have an open roster spot and Mavs need to use it on someone. Not sure there's anyone who's better and Guard depth is always key with Kyrie on the roster!
THJ is under 42% from the field and has a below league average TS%. You can't be below league average TS% when you are that bad at defense. Advanced metrics say THJ is worse than a replacement player.FTAco07 said:shack009 said:M.C. Swag said:
He's not gonna save a franchise but he was awesome for the Mavs as the 3rd Guard. He'd be perfect Kyrie/Exum insurance and would basically guarantee THJ never plays if we don't absolutely have to play him.
I'd take him if that were true about THJ, but I think Kidd thinks THJ is really good for this team.
You do realize THJ has better numbers across the board this year right? I will never understand the THJ hate unless your expectation of his is to be a top 2 piece of a contending team. He has his flaws certainly, but guy can score and is one of only 3 or 4 guys on our entire team that can get his own buckets.
I liked Dinwiddie when he was here, but he's been downright awful this year and wanting him to be anything other than injury insurance, let alone replace your 3rd best scorer, is just nostalgic or insane.
shack009 said:THJ is under 42% from the field and has a below league average TS%. You can't be below league average TS% when you are that bad at defense. Advanced metrics say THJ is worse than a replacement player.FTAco07 said:shack009 said:M.C. Swag said:
He's not gonna save a franchise but he was awesome for the Mavs as the 3rd Guard. He'd be perfect Kyrie/Exum insurance and would basically guarantee THJ never plays if we don't absolutely have to play him.
I'd take him if that were true about THJ, but I think Kidd thinks THJ is really good for this team.
You do realize THJ has better numbers across the board this year right? I will never understand the THJ hate unless your expectation of his is to be a top 2 piece of a contending team. He has his flaws certainly, but guy can score and is one of only 3 or 4 guys on our entire team that can get his own buckets.
I liked Dinwiddie when he was here, but he's been downright awful this year and wanting him to be anything other than injury insurance, let alone replace your 3rd best scorer, is just nostalgic or insane.
Did you see my posts above?FTAco07 said:shack009 said:THJ is under 42% from the field and has a below league average TS%. You can't be below league average TS% when you are that bad at defense. Advanced metrics say THJ is worse than a replacement player.FTAco07 said:shack009 said:M.C. Swag said:
He's not gonna save a franchise but he was awesome for the Mavs as the 3rd Guard. He'd be perfect Kyrie/Exum insurance and would basically guarantee THJ never plays if we don't absolutely have to play him.
I'd take him if that were true about THJ, but I think Kidd thinks THJ is really good for this team.
You do realize THJ has better numbers across the board this year right? I will never understand the THJ hate unless your expectation of his is to be a top 2 piece of a contending team. He has his flaws certainly, but guy can score and is one of only 3 or 4 guys on our entire team that can get his own buckets.
I liked Dinwiddie when he was here, but he's been downright awful this year and wanting him to be anything other than injury insurance, let alone replace your 3rd best scorer, is just nostalgic or insane.
Now do Dinwiddie
A few pages back I said he maybe wins us 2-3 games a month by himself but he also loses us about 5 with how terrible he is defensively. He consistently has substantially negative +/-.FTAco07 said:shack009 said:THJ is under 42% from the field and has a below league average TS%. You can't be below league average TS% when you are that bad at defense. Advanced metrics say THJ is worse than a replacement player.FTAco07 said:shack009 said:M.C. Swag said:
He's not gonna save a franchise but he was awesome for the Mavs as the 3rd Guard. He'd be perfect Kyrie/Exum insurance and would basically guarantee THJ never plays if we don't absolutely have to play him.
I'd take him if that were true about THJ, but I think Kidd thinks THJ is really good for this team.
You do realize THJ has better numbers across the board this year right? I will never understand the THJ hate unless your expectation of his is to be a top 2 piece of a contending team. He has his flaws certainly, but guy can score and is one of only 3 or 4 guys on our entire team that can get his own buckets.
I liked Dinwiddie when he was here, but he's been downright awful this year and wanting him to be anything other than injury insurance, let alone replace your 3rd best scorer, is just nostalgic or insane.
Now do Dinwiddie.
I'm not going to argue THJ is a great player or worth his contract, but I will continue to say he's our third best scorer and can win you a game any given night (while acknowledging he can also shoot you out of one).
Well he's a better overall player than THJ, so I'll stand by that. Advanced numbers bear that out.FTAco07 said:
Sorry, I miss quoted your post. I was trying to respond to the post you quoted asking for him to replace THJ.
FTAco07 said:
Sorry, I miss quoted your post. I was trying to respond to the post you quoted asking for him to replace THJ.
Well Dinwiddie was a better offensive player on this team the previous two years than THJ has been in most years. Since Dinwiddie was on this team previously you actually can kinda plug in numbers.FTAco07 said:
And I maintain the idea of replacing THJ with Dinwiddie is absolutely a downgrade in reality. I believe and like analytics, but you can't just plug and play numbers. THJ is absolutely more useful and better for this team than Dinwiddie barring a significant injury to Luka or Kyrie
Agreed.FTAco07 said:
Dinwiddie was on a totally different team without Kyrie. He shouldn't be anything more than a few minutes a game reserve to give Luka or Kyrie a rest on this team. We already have Hardy, who I like and wish played more, and Exum whenever he comes back for that role.
Seemed like it was a lot more difficult than it should've been given New Yorks situation, but a win is a win. Caught the knicks at a good time. We were due for a break or two if you ask me. Injuries have really been a downer this year.shack009 said:
Good work to get the win tonight. Got up early and never let them within 8-9 in the second half. This one counts just as much as any of the others.
FTAco07 said:
Dinwiddie was on a totally different team without Kyrie. He shouldn't be anything more than a few minutes a game reserve to give Luka or Kyrie a rest on this team. We already have Hardy, who I like and wish played more, and Exum whenever he comes back for that role.
It was our 3rd road game in 4 nights and it took 2 of their guys catching fire in the 4th to even make it half a question. Not like we were playing with a full roster either. Job done.Grapesoda2525 said:Seemed like it was a lot more difficult than it should've been given New Yorks situation, but a win is a win. Caught the knicks at a good time. We were due for a break or two if you ask me. Injuries have really been a downer this year.shack009 said:
Good work to get the win tonight. Got up early and never let them within 8-9 in the second half. This one counts just as much as any of the others.
Infection_Ag11 said:FTAco07 said:
Dinwiddie was on a totally different team without Kyrie. He shouldn't be anything more than a few minutes a game reserve to give Luka or Kyrie a rest on this team. We already have Hardy, who I like and wish played more, and Exum whenever he comes back for that role.
Kidd's use of Hardy is one of the most perplexing things I can ever remember with respect to player utilization.
